Mr. Ruby. Sort of. Well, first off, there are two reasons. First of all, we were, I think, very conscious of the Jewish name of Rubenstein, and we had worked for another Jewish fellow who we all looked up to, an elderly fellow who had been very successful in business and his name was Stanley Eisenberg and he said, “When you send out mail orders you shouldn’t use a Jewish name because of the—some people won’t order even if they can use the merchandise,” and anyhow he suggested we use a different name, and so we finally decided since they were calling us Ruby anyhow, with that in mind, and business reasons, that is, and we finally decided to—Sam and I did first, you know.

Mr. Griffin. You did.

Mr. Ruby. Yes; and Jack did it down in Dallas.

Mr. Griffin. How much time elapsed between when you and Sam changed your name and Jack changed his?

Mr. Ruby. Gee, I don’t know.

Mr. Griffin. Did you ever discuss with Jack the reasons for his changing his name?

Mr. Ruby. No.

Mr. Griffin. Do you have any idea why he changed his name?

Mr. Ruby. No; it never came up. We never discussed it as far as I can remember, we just never discussed that.

Mr. Griffin. Is my understanding correct then that the changing of your name and Sam’s name was directly tied with your activity in connection with Earl Products, and thus since Hyman didn’t have any connection with Earl Products and Jack didn’t have any connection with Earl Products at the time you two changed your name, why there was no reason for those two at that time to change their name?