Mr. Griffin. Do you remember who the first policeman was who testified?
Mr. Ruby. No; I don’t. And he told me on several occasions that he never made the statements the police testified that he did make, and in fact, if the record will be checked, it is proved that the statement that Dean made couldn’t have been true—Officer Dean.
Mr. Griffin. Why do you say that?
Mr. Ruby. Because at the time when he said he had been talking—that Jack made a statement, Jack, he is the one who said Jack told him 2 days before at 4 o’clock, I think the time was, that he stated, that Jack told him that he was going to get Oswald.
At that time Jack was at home with Eva, so Jack couldn’t have made that statement to him, and, of course, this has been brought out in the petition or motion for a new trial, so it is in the official record, so to say.
Mr. Griffin. Now, when Jack talked to you the first night after, or after the first police officer testified, was that first police officer Sergeant Dean, or was that another police officer?
Mr. Ruby. No; that was another police officer. Dean was the last police officer, if I recall correctly.
Mr. Griffin. Did Jack tell you what he did say?
Mr. Ruby. No; but he said he never made those statements.
Mr. Griffin. Did Jack——