Mr. Griffin. When you first saw him in Dallas did he have these—did you have any trouble communicating with him, did he show any lack of understanding when you first saw him?
Mr. Ruby. No, no; it wasn’t—yes; I must change that. There was a slight hesitancy on his part to understand questions that I put to him. He would shake his head when I would ask him questions sometimes and as though he didn’t understand, and these were just ordinary questions of routine matters, just about the trial or Belli. We discussed Belli, and he said, even at the beginning there he said, “They don’t talk to me. Why don’t they talk to me longer,” and yet Belli was there for hours.
Mr. Griffin. This wasn’t the very first time you saw him. This was on an occasion later?
Mr. Ruby. That is right. It had to be later.
Mr. Griffin. All right. I have nothing more. And if you have nothing more I want to thank you very much for taking this time for us.
Mr. Ruby. I hope I can help you and I hope you can help us.
Mr. Griffin. We want to assemble all the facts that we possibly can and prepare a report that will be as fair and as impartial as can be.
Mr. Ruby. You want me to check on that professor at Northwestern University, correct?
Mr. Griffin. And if you would give us the names of those employees.
Mr. Ruby. The list I have on that. I can possibly get the information as to where my brother received the psychiatric treatment when he was about 10 years old. Do you want me to send that to you?