Mrs. Grant. Even their sisters or brothers who were nice, we didn’t have anything to do with them, yet we knew they turned out to be some pretty rough characters and I’m not going to deny that—Sam Yeres and Dave Yeres—let me say this, I knew of more than he knew.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know of any contacts that he may have retained with any of these people after he left the Chicago area?

Mrs. Grant. We saw them—and we encountered them—we talked.

Mr. Hubert. Did they come to Dallas?

Mrs. Grant. Oh, no—nobody I know. I know one did—wait a minute—Sam Yeres did.

Mr. Hubert. When did he come to Dallas?

Mrs. Grant. I don’t know—many years ago, but he is since dead and his brother is in Chicago.

Mr. Hubert. Let’s take the last 8 or 9 or 10 years.

Mrs. Grant. He may have died 10 years ago, for all I know.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know of any people of the nature or character which you have described whom Jack may have known in the Chicago district whom he contacted or who contacted him in the past 10 years—to your knowledge—if you don’t know, you don’t know.