Mrs. Grant. There was nothing—I know when Lenny—he said something about “Maybe he knows somebody in the AGVA.”

Mr. Burleson. Who could help them in the trouble he was having?

Mrs. Grant. That’s right. He also called—there was a fellow in Chicago by the name of—I have noticed all their names.

Mr. Burleson. But this is all you can think about?

Mrs. Grant. But if they have got names, I will answer it.

Mr. Burleson. All right, we will get to that.

Mrs. Grant. I am not trying to get out of it.

Mr. Burleson. This is all you can think of now?

Mrs. Grant. Let me explain something before you even—and since this is going in this record—I knew more racketeers than he did. My girl friends lived in classy buildings and there were fellows that worked, they were gambling men. The ran districts in Chicago and when I was 16 or 18, this was the prohibition. We hear all of this stuff and we were intrigued by it, but we didn’t know who these people were, but I knew they existed, and truthfully, all in 1 year—in the early forties they were, as you say, bumped off, but he didn’t know them, and please believe me I am very truthful and very honest.

Mr. Hubert. Let’s go off the record now and recess until this evening.