Mrs. Grant. Oh, he came through—he was at one of the motels and he called my brother and I went out and had dinner with him.

Mr. Hubert. He called Jack, you mean?

Mrs. Grant. Yes—now, there are several brothers in the family, and I even met his parents the previous year.

Mr. Hubert. Do you recall any connection with that Rivera family or any member of it in the last 4 or 5 years?

Mrs. Grant. No; but I do know I met his mother and father. They came to Chicago in one of the summers—like in the middle fifties when I was up there. They had called our home in Chicago and his parents were staying at the Palmer House.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know of any connection whatsoever between your brother, Jack Ruby, and any member of the Rivera family in the last 4 or 5 years?

Mrs. Grant. I don’t think he had any business with them.

Mr. Hubert. Or any connection otherwise?

Mrs. Grant. He only knew them through me.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know of any connection in any way—business, social, or otherwise, in the last 5 years?