Mrs. Grant. Oh, yes; in fact, we read the story that night. We were shocked. We knew he took trips, we knew he was married to a dancer in New York, but this all came out—wait a minute, his wife came from New York that summer.

Mr. Hubert. Now, we’ll get into that later. Did Jack know Paul Roland Jones at that time?

Mrs. Grant. If he did—no; I doubt if he ever even heard of him.

Mr. Hubert. Jack had not come down here yet?

Mrs. Grant. If he was, he didn’t stay long.

Mr. Hubert. But to your recollection he didn’t know Jones at all?

Mrs. Grant. I don’t think he has ever seen him—well, wait a minute, he may have seen the man or heard about him.

Mr. Hubert. I understand that, but at the time of this episode that you are telling us about?

Mrs. Grant. I don’t think he ever saw him as far as I know, but I want to tell you that Roland Jones went to Chicago during the period of those 6 months and he did meet my brother Hyman. I don’t know what conversation my brother had—my brother thought he was a nice guy—we didn’t know anything about his background.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know what happened to him?