Mrs. Grant. Well, he had a letter with the attorney—they went up to an attorney called Graham Koch [spelling] K-o-c-h. Anyway, he would know more about it than I do.
Mr. Hubert. Do you know whether Ralph Paul was holding that stock as owner or as security for money owed?
Mrs. Grant. Who knows?
Mr. Hubert. But do you know that?
Mrs. Grant. I know Ralph must have given Jack a lot of money that he never got back; believe me, let me tell you.
Mr. Hubert. Had Jack talked to you at all about any nightclubs that he proposed to open?
Mrs. Grant. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. When did he first talk to you about that?
Mrs. Grant. Listen, now, he didn’t say he was going to open it, he says, “This would be a good private club,” and I think he took me then on a street here to Maple or Cedar Springs, and I guess he was going to ask Ralph Paul for money, to be honest, they were very close.
Mr. Hubert. Were you to be a part of it?