Mrs. Grant. Oh, sure. To tell you the truth, the way I see Jack through this little glass, he has very little to say.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know a man by the name of Robert McKeown [spelling] M-c-K-e-o-w-n, or have you ever heard of him?

Mrs. Grant. Is it a Dallas man?

Mr. Hubert. I believe not.

Mrs. Grant. Would it be my friend or Jack’s friend?

Mr. Hubert. Well, it would probably be Jack’s friend. Did Jack ever tell you of contacting him by telephone and going to see him in the Galveston area concerning the selling of jeeps to Castro?

Mrs. Grant. Now, I know Jack was in Cuba 6 or 7 years ago or one of those years.

Mr. Hubert. Oh, yes; you told us about that—that was when he went to join McWillie for a little while?

Mrs. Grant. Yes; and I also know that I did hear the story about jeeps.

Mr. Hubert. When did you hear that?