Mrs. Grant. He was against communism from the beginning of when it even entered his mind. I don’t know what year—maybe 35 years ago.

Mr. Hubert. How did he express himself on that?

Mrs. Grant. He didn’t have to—from the things he done—was too American—too much American.

Mr. Hubert. But my point is—I gather from that that he never discussed with you his feelings about communism or anything—it’s just that you observed that?

Mrs. Grant. Well, I’m not an intellectual on those subjects, to be honest about it.

Mr. Hubert. Was he the type of man that would be interested in these subjects himself?

Mrs. Grant. No; not to express it openly or fight with it—in this manner, if you said anything against anybody or anything big of our country that is Americanism—you might as well—he would knock the hell out of you.

Mr. Hubert. In other words, what you are saying to me is that if he has any kind of “ism” at all, it would be Americanism?

Mrs. Grant. That’s right—he has that—he does have that—that’s his greatest.

Mr. Hubert. Jack never married, did he?