Mrs. Grant. You know, I assume him and Jack were very good friends.

Mr. Hubert. I’m not suggesting to the contrary.

Mrs. Grant. He never did call me and I never called him—I don’t remember calling him. I have called him many times since then.

Mr. Hubert. Yes; I know, but I’m talking about during this particular period of 3 days.

Mrs. Grant. I don’t think he has ever called me—I have called him.

Mr. Hubert. No; I mean—let’s restrict ourselves for the moment to the three days of November 22, 23, and 24.

Mrs. Grant. He may have called me on the 24th of November.

Mr. Hubert. After Oswald was shot?

Mrs. Grant. Well, there was at least 20 calls when I did not pick up the phone—people in my home did.

Mr. Hubert. No, ma’am; that’s not what I’m talking about but let me get at it this way—was there any contact between you and Ralph Paul from the time the President was shot until the time Oswald was shot?