Mr. Burleson. When was the next time, then, that you heard from Jack; was that after the assassination?
Mrs. Grant. Yes.
Mr. Burleson. And at that time what was Jack’s state as you recall it?
Mrs. Grant. Well, I was hysterical myself. He must have been crying, from his voice.
Mr. Burleson. At the time that he called, did you know that President Kennedy had been assassinated?
Mrs. Grant. Oh, yes; because Pauline had called me and on my clock it was about 25 to 1.
Mr. Burleson. What was Jack doing—saying—or was he crying?
Mrs. Grant. Well, when Jack called it was after 1 again.
Mr. Burleson. How was he—was he upset or normal?
Mrs. Grant. Oh, he was upset.