Mrs. Grant. On the 24th.
Mr. Hubert. And I want to ask you if you know by whose authority he took this action?
Mrs. Grant. Ralph Paul, who knows nothing about lawyers—only knew Howard and they called them thinking they could get back on bond. Now, I didn’t know Oswald died until later in the afternoon. I was hysterical over this shooting and being sick and the President’s assassination—in fact, my television was on but it was turned down.
Mr. Hubert. In other words, it was Ralph Paul that called Mr. Howard for the initial step?
When it came to the charge of the matter which ultimately followed, did you have anything to do with the selection of the attorneys who would defend your brother Jack?
Mrs. Grant. Let me put it this way—there was Daugherty and Sullivan and Jim Martin, and one guy was threatened and one fellow’s wife didn’t want him in. Tom Howard pushed Jim Martin out of the case. I was panicky here. I had asked Tom to call Fred Brunner, Charles Tessmer—what is the name of this Erisman?
Mr. Burleson. Fred Erisman.
Mrs. Grant. Erisman or something like that and also Percy Foreman to get another lawyer—you know, a super lawyer that I felt—I didn’t know too much about Tom, but talking to Chicago and people telling me here and everything, anyway, Tom remained in the case and I understand he didn’t contact these people as quickly as he should and Earl was panicky up in Detroit.
Mr. Hubert. Didn’t Earl come down here as a result of that?
Mrs. Grant. Not that day.