Mr. Hubert. Now, I show you a document which purports to be a report of an interview of you by Alfred Sayres, FBI agent, on December 5, 1963, and for the purpose of identification I have marked that document, “Dallas, Tex., May 29, 1964, Exhibit No. 4 of the deposition of Sam Ruby,” and I have signed my name below that, and it consists of one page, and I ask you the same question with respect to that document?

Mr. Ruby. Well, this first paragraph—I found out that he had—that he did make a trip to Cuba.

Mr. Burleson. Let me ask you—you are referring to the first paragraph which starts off: “Samuel David Ruby, 11616 Jamestown Road, Dallas, Tex., advised telephonically that he knows of no trip to Cuba made by Jack Ruby at any time. It was explained to Mr. Ruby that if such a trip were made it had been alleged Jack Ruby made the trip with a gambler from Fort Worth, Texas. He suggested that such a person may have been a man by the name of McWillie whom he has heard mentioned as a gambler and a friend of Jack Ruby.” What do you now know in reference to that, that you have found out since that time?

Mr. Ruby. Well, from Jack himself—this was in the Dallas County Courthouse in jail, that Mr. McWillie sent him the airplane tickets for him to go to Cuba and to be his guest while he was there.

Mr. Hubert. When did you get that information from Jack Ruby?

Mr. Ruby. I don’t know—sometime ago—I believe it was during the trial—during the course of the trial.

Mr. Hubert. You visited him at the Dallas County Jail, is that correct?

Mr. Ruby. Right.

Mr. Hubert. And during the course of that conversation he told you that?

Mr. Ruby. Yes, sir.