Mr. Hubert. Who told you that?

Mr. Ruby. Well, they are up at the Liquor Commission in Oak Cliff—I don’t think I know that just now.

Mr. Burleson. That would be the Liquor Control Board—some of the personnel there?

Mr. Ruby. I believe that’s it.

Mr. Burleson. Do you know their names?

Mr. Ruby. I believe one was Johnny Cranks.

Mr. Hubert. When was this told to you?

Mr. Ruby. Well, they called me up there to inquire whether I was a member of the corporation.

Mr. Hubert. And then they volunteered their opinion as to what his motivation was?

Mr. Ruby. Yes; that was what they thought and I talked to Jack a few times at the county jail and he says he felt very sorry for the Kennedy family.