Mr. Herndon. Well, I have to very carefully interpret what I see. I’m going to take all these things together at a later date into consideration, and I don’t see any difficulty.

Mr. Ruby. Because—I want my chief to understand this here and see that.

Mr. Herndon. Are you a little more relaxed now?

Mr. Ruby. Yes.

Mr. Herndon. You seem to be. I don’t want to begin until you feel you are perfectly relaxed.

Mr. Ruby. Yes; I’m very much relaxed because I have nothing—I’m not sparring with it, so I must be relaxed.

Mr. Herndon. Very fine. I appreciate your cooperation very much and you are cooperating with me very well.

In a moment, you can move your hand a little bit to get a little circulation. You probably felt just a little tingling sensation?

Mr. Ruby. Yes; I felt a little bit of throbbing in these two fingers.

Mr. Herndon. Are they too tight?