Mr. Crafard. Oh, about 10 by 10 or 10 by 12.
Mr. Griffin. Did he have chairs in there?
Mr. Crafard. He had a couch, a desk, and a chair in front of his desk.
Mr. Griffin. Did you spend a good bit of the day in that office watching television?
Mr. Crafard. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. All right. After you got up, when did you first go into that office and start to watch television?
Mr. Crafard. Almost immediately.
Mr. Griffin. And how long did you stay in there?
Mr. Crafard. We turned the television on and there was nothing on the television just right at that time, on the channel we had it on. We switched channels, while the set was warming up we went out front and listened to Andy’s radio until the television warmed up, and then we watched television.
Mr. Griffin. Jack Ruby wasn’t there at that time?