Mr. Ruby. Chief—I know.
Mr. Specter. Well, I will ask him to come in, Mr. Ruby. I’m willing to bring him back, if that’s your request.
Mr. Fowler. I would like this record to reflect that this is against the advice of his attorneys present, and that it will be very detrimental to, No. 1, his appeal, and No. 2, perhaps to any clemency that might be asked for in the future, and No. 3, for the actual trial of the case on the merits, if such ever occurs.
Mr. Specter. Mr. Ruby, the Commission can proceed and conduct this test and not bring him back. I want you to be clear on that point, that these men do not have to be here for the purposes of getting this information for the Commission, so we will know all the facts, or for the purposes of conducting this test. So, it’s really extraneous. It doesn’t really matter for them to be in here for the tests.
Mr. Fowler. Jack, why do you want them back?
Mr. Ruby. Because I happen to know what I’m talking about.
Mr. Tonahill. Now, Jack——
Mr. Ruby. Joe, you’re not my attorney any more. We know it. We understand one another, please. You’re not helping me.
Mr. Fowler. Let’s just direct our attention right now, Jack, to the things that are near to you. Why do you want Mr. Alexander here?
Mr. Ruby. I feel I don’t want him to think I’m holding out on anything. I don’t want him to have any idea that I’m reluctant to answer things in front of him, believe me.