Mr. Herndon. You mean—before?

Mr. Specter. Well, I don’t know if we’re going to get an answer to it or not.

Mr. Fowler. Jack, now the question that is being directed to you at this time—well, go right ahead.

Mr. Ruby. Yes: Sunday morning.

Mr. Specter. And whom did you tell?

Mr. Ruby. George Senator.

Mr. Specter. And where were you at the time you discussed it with him?

Mr. Ruby. In my apartment.

Mr. Specter. And state in as precise words as you can remember, just what you said to him and he said to you at that time?

Mr. Ruby. Well, he didn’t say anything—the funny part—he was reading the paper and I doubt if he even recalled me saying it. I have to elaborate on it, but I was so carried away emotionally that I said—I don’t know how I said it—I didn’t say it in any vulgar manner—I said, “If something happened to this person, that then Mrs. Kennedy won’t have to come back for the trial.” That’s all I said. Now, would you mind asking me on that particular point? That happened Sunday morning. That’s the only time any thought ever came to my mind, because that morning I read some articles in the newspaper that she would have to come back to trial.