Mr. Specter. Go ahead now, if it’s all right with your counsel, so we can focus in on what concerns you.

Mr. Herndon. Perhaps I might want to ask that other question first and he would find he might not have as much of a problem if I asked it first.

Mr. Specter. Well, I prefer to stay with what we have now. I think we can. If it’s all right to have him explain it, if it’s all right with his attorney, I’d rather stay with that.

Mr. Ruby. I’ve already told it to the Warren Commission?

Mr. Tonahill. Well, go ahead.

Mr. Ruby. As I left the Western Union, I walked toward the ramp, and as I walked down, Lieutenant Pierce’s car was parked already on the curb, partly on the curb and partly some of it was on the ramp, and some officer was talking to him, so consequently—I don’t know how to answer that—whether I was in the basement—when his car had driven out?

Mr. Specter. Did you walk by his car?

Mr. Ruby. Yes.

Mr. Specter. At the same time it was parked there?

Mr. Ruby. Yes.