Mr. Crafard. We was talking. We had the radio up loud enough so we could hear, but we was talking.

Mr. Griffin. There was a continuous conversation, or were there long pauses in the conversation?

Mr. Crafard. I don’t recall. I don’t remember. We might have stopped, we might just sat there 10 or 15 minutes at a time; I don’t remember.

Mr. Griffin. All right. How long did Jack stay there with you?

Mr. Crafard. I don’t remember. It seems to me he was there probably a couple of hours.

Mr. Griffin. You think Jack was there a couple of hours with you in the club?

Mr. Crafard. He might have been; yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin. Now, while Jack was there, did you ever go back into his office and watch television?

Mr. Crafard. I believe we did; yes.

Mr. Griffin. Do you have any recollection of how long you remained with Jack in his office watching television?