Mr. Herndon. Here again, “Is any close friend or any member of your immediate family,”—I will have to change this one. I shall ask the question this way, unless you have reason to object. “Do you know if any close friend or any member of your immediate family ever attended a meeting of the Communist Party?”

Mr. Ruby. In other words, if I say I know they did——

Mr. Herndon. Do you have knowledge, in other words?

Mr. Ruby. No; not knowledge—you’re putting me in a spot there. Repeat it.

Mr. Herndon. Let me ask this question the way I composed it originally. “Do you know if any close friend or any member of your immediate family ever attended a meeting of the Communist Party?”

Mr. Ruby. Yes. Meaning—I know they didn’t.

Mr. Herndon. That’s a very valid point.

Mr. Specter. Let’s rephrase it then—“Did any member of your immediate family or any close friend ever attend a meeting of the Communist Party?”

Mr. Ruby. No.

Mr. Herndon. How do you want that, Mr. Specter?