Mr. Herndon. I believe in the last series of the first session, which I believe is series 4, Mr. Ruby showed some indications of becoming fatigued and displayed some tiredness in the charts. Also, I might add in the latter phase of the examination, in the latter series, there was some indication that he was approaching this desensitization that I have mentioned before.
Mr. Specter. Have you now given us all the relevant findings from series of 1?
Mr. Herndon. I think so. There might be one other thing I will just mention here, and that is in question 5 with regard to, “Do you use the middle name Leon” there were some noticeable changes in the physiological tracings. However, these were caused by his laughter and talking in which he later explained that he sometimes used the name, but other times he doesn’t, and that the name Leon is sentimental to him. That is the only other noticeable variance in his normal tracing that I wish to comment on.
Mr. Specter. Let us then proceed now to series 2 and mark that Herndon Deposition Exhibit No. 2, if we may, please.
(The document referred to was marked Herndon Deposition Exhibit No. 2 for identification.)
Mr. Specter. Now, referring to that chart, what significant findings were there on that chart?
Mr. Herndon. The only significant change physiologically during series No. 2 was in Mr. Ruby’s response to the question, “Have you ever been known by another name?”, as portrayed by an increase in his blood pressure. He answered this question with both a yes and a no, and after the series was completed there was some discussion with regard to the question. He mentioned that he was uncertain how to answer the question because he had originally used the name of Jack Rubenstein and that he had legally changed it at a later date. Other than some variations in the pneumograph which were caused by his hesitating to answer due to the length of the questions provided, there is no other significant physiological change noticed in series 2.
Mr. Specter. And what were the relevant questions in series 2?
Mr. Herndon. The relevant questions in series 2 were No. 3 “Are you now a member of the Communist Party?” in which there was no significant physiological change.
Mr. Specter. What was his response there?