Mr. Herndon. Yes, sir.
Mr. Specter. Let us now proceed to the next series and mark the next series as Herndon Deposition Exhibit No. 3.
(Herndon Deposition Exhibit No. 3 was marked for identification.)
Mr. Specter. Would you start off on the third series, Mr. Herndon, by telling us what were the relevant questions and the responses thereto, if any?
Mr. Herndon. During series 3, there were three relevant questions asked. No. 3: “Between the assassination and the shooting, did anybody you know tell you they knew Oswald?”
He responded “No,” and there was no significant physiological change recorded on the polygraph. There is a noticeable change in the pneumograph pattern. However, this has been interpreted again as being caused by the relatively long length of this particular question.
Question No. 5 was: “Aside from anything you said to George Senator on Sunday morning, did you ever tell anyone else that you intended to shoot Oswald?” In comparison to his overall chart, there is nothing of particular significance in his physiological responses to this question, when he responded “No” to question 5.
Question No. 8 was: “Did you shoot Oswald in order to silence him?” This again being a relevant question. He responded “No.” There was no significant deviation in his physiological responses to this question.
During series 3 he was asked two control-type questions in which he did respond significantly with regard to the physiological tracings. Question No. 4 was asked: “Are you married?” Mr. Ruby responded “No.” An interpretation of his polygrams reveal a rather significant rise in his relative blood pressure. He also produced a rather vivid impact on the GSR tracings, and there was noticeable staircase suppression in his pneumograph pattern. This question was later discussed with Mr. Ruby, and he said that he was thinking of a young girl by the name of Alice Nichols who he had previously considered marrying. He admitted that he felt something “working on him,” with regard to this particular question. An analysis of this question would indicate that Ruby did emotionally respond to the stimulus of the question “Are you married,” and his thoughts of a former sweetheart. This does not indicate that there was any deception of course, but does suggest Mr. Ruby does respond physiologically to certain emotions that he feels when he hears the questions and decides how to answer them. In a sense this is a control-type question. Also in this series, in question No. 7, Mr. Ruby was asked: “While in the service did you receive any disciplinary action?” There is a noticeable rise in his blood pressure after he responded “No.” This question had been discussed rather thoroughly with him, and after the series was run, he admitted that he had been called in before his commanding officer regarding a brawl he had while in the military service. He also commented: “Evidently you are getting a good reading.” This could be interpreted as a deception pattern inasmuch as in his mind he realized he had been in some trouble in the military service; however, did not want to truthfully answer the question as he considered it insignificant.
However, he did admit that he had been in some trouble with his commanding officer regarding fighting. This is considered a control question, and its response is greater than his response to the previous relevant question which I had related.