Mr. Specter. What was the nature of your disagreement with Mr. Ruby?

Mr. Wall. He was in a financial bind because the show wasn’t working out like he thought and we were in a financial bind and needed the money and he would let us do it only if we would give him half. We couldn’t because we couldn’t.

Mr. Specter. What do you mean “we”? You still mean Joe Peterson and you?

Mr. Wall. Yes. And we called in the union man of our performing arts called AGVA.

Mr. Specter. What is that an abbreviation of?

Mr. Wall. American Guild of Variety Artists. And the AGVA man sided with Jack and we got into an argument wherein Jack punched Joe in the mouth and broke off a tooth.

Mr. Specter. Joe Peterson, that is?

Mr. Wall. Yes, sir. And we left that night. I might also add in the record that the man, the name of the man representing our union, was named James Dolen who was arrested later, some months later, by the FBI.

Mr. Specter. On what charge, if you know?

Mr. Wall. Yes, sir; as far as I know he was running some sort of bingo game or something illegal in Louisiana.