Mr. Specter. Now, when did Jack Ruby first discuss his problem with you?

Mr. Wall. I would say around 2 weeks before the assassination.

Mr. Specter. When did he next discuss the problem with you?

Mr. Wall. He called me a couple of times to see if we had had a meeting or not. He would call and I would tell him; no.

Mr. Specter. Was that by telephone?

Mr. Wall. Yes, sir; he would call me at the hotel.

Mr. Specter. And how many times did he call you after he first discussed it with you approximately 2 weeks before the assassination?

Mr. Wall. I would say about two times.

Mr. Specter. When did he make those telephone calls to you?

Mr. Wall. In the afternoon.