Mr. Specter. Do you recall the specific instance, or are you just saying what you think probably occurred?

Mr. Olsen. I am just saying what probably occurred, because I don’t remember when I saw him before that.

Mr. Specter. Do you have any recollection what your conversation was with Mr. Ruby when you saw him prior to this Friday night?

Mr. Olsen. No, sir.

Mr. Specter. How long did you talk to Mr. Ruby on this Friday night?

Mr. Olsen. Two or three hours.

Mr. Specter. Who else was present at the time of the conversation?

Mr. Olsen. Kay.

Mr. Specter. And anybody else?

Mr. Olsen. Johnny.