Mr. Olsen. Oh, it could have been Ruby himself.

Mr. Specter. Do you recall for sure whether or not it was Ruby who told you that?

Mr. Olsen. I recall that he did—he had said something about being with a—or, how rough Chicago used to be.

Mr. Specter. Well, did he say anything beyond how rough it was, to the effect that he was with a criminal gang or anything of that sort?

Mr. Olsen. No, sir.

Mr. Specter. Do you know anything about Ruby’s trip to Cuba?

Mr. Olsen. Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter. What do you know about that?

Mr. Olsen. He said he was going to Cuba to get acts.

Mr. Specter. To get what?