Mr. Crafard. Yes, or he might have kept in his pocket. He kept two or three different books in his pocket at one time, but I believe that one was in his desk.

Mr. Griffin. And he also kept on his desk a much larger Penway notebook?

Mr. Crafard. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. But he didn’t have the larger Penway notebook until——

Mr. Crafard. Until after I went to work for him.

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mr. Crafard. There was another one. The Penway notebook was about 6 inches long, and about 4½ inches wide.

Mr. Griffin. Now, let us look at these names in here.

Mr. Crafard. I don’t recognize any.

Mr. Griffin. You don’t recognize a single name? Did you know Cecil Hamlin?