Mr. Crafard. Once or twice, but usually just put stuff in the car for him and went back upstairs.
Mr. Griffin. And when you would leave Jack on any of these occasions, did he have other people with him, who drove off with him?
Mr. Crafard. One or two times; yes. A couple of times he had Mr. Ralph Paul with him.
Mr. Griffin. Now, how many occasions would you say you went down with him to the car when he carried money down, put the money in the trunk, and Jack drove off then alone?
Mr. Crafard. I would say most of the time when I went down with him he drove off alone.
Mr. Griffin. Can you give us what your best estimate is of the number of times this would have been when he drove off alone?
Mr. Crafard. I would say about eight or nine times that I am definite.
Mr. Griffin. How many times a day did you have occasion to go into the trunk of Jack’s automobile?
Mr. Crafard. Maybe it would be 2 or 3 days I wouldn’t go near his automobile, and there might be a day when I would go get something out of the trunk of his car two or three different times during the day.
Mr. Griffin. On occasions when you went down to the trunk of his car was Jack carrying money around in the trunk of his car?