Mr. Crafard. Mr. Earl Ruby’s in Detroit, that is his home phone number.
Mr. Griffin. While you were at the Carousel, do you recall Jack’s ever telephoning Earl Ruby or Earl Ruby ever telephoning Jack?
Mr. Crafard. Jack phoned Earl two or three different times. I don’t recall Earl phoning Jack.
Mr. Griffin. Do you recall why it was Jack called Earl?
Mr. Crafard. In connection—the one time that I can really recall was in connection with the twist boards.
Mr. Griffin. How soon was that after you went to work for Jack?
Mr. Crafard. I believe that would have been about 2 or 3 weeks after I went to work for Jack.
Mr. Griffin. And what do you recall about that telephone call?
Mr. Crafard. Just the fact that he told Earl about the twist boards, and he told him he’d send him a couple of them and some of the advertisement he had on them, so he could promote them a little bit up Detroit.
Mr. Griffin. Did you overhear this telephone conversation?