Mr. Hubert. Do you know whether Grubbs knew him?
Mr. Litchfield. No, sir; I don’t remember.
Mr. Hubert. Who said they knew him?
Mr. Litchfield. I could assume, but I don’t remember who said that they knew him.
Mr. Hubert. In any case, you did not at that time say that you thought you had seen Oswald in the Carousel?
Mr. Litchfield. No, sir; I just said that—you are getting mixed up. I said—when it became obvious that Ruby had shot him, we were watching it on television, and we were, you know, how you are talking, “I think I know him,” and I said, “I’m pretty sure I know Jack Ruby,” and I said, “What is that idiot doing now?” Or something like that, and I forgot that someone said, “That Oswald, I think I’ve seen him somewhere before,” and that’s when I said it.
Mr. Hubert. You said the same thing, “I think I’ve seen him?”
Mr. Litchfield. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. When was it you began to associate Oswald as a man that you had seen somewhere before—and as also the man you had seen in Jack Ruby’s club the last time you were there?
Mr. Litchfield. I believe it was that day—not that I was associating necessarily it with Ruby—it was that everybody all of a sudden had seen him and they were trying to think where they had seen him and I was trying to remember where I had seen him.