Mr. Litchfield. If she’s her sister, I was trying to think if I ever met Bertha’s sister. I talked to her on the phone once. Bertha told me she had two sisters, I believe, wait a minute—Earlene Roberts is the one that lives in California, I believe, I believe it is, and Bertha went out to see her, maybe, when Bertha went out to California 4 or 5 days on some business, and then I was helping her remodel the home over there and painting then, and I think I had to call her and I think Earlene Roberts was the person I called in California, I think.
Mr. Hubert. You called the person in California for Cheek?
Mr. Litchfield. To talk to Bertha when she was out there.
Mr. Hubert. That was when?
Mr. Litchfield. Maybe October—maybe November.
Mr. Hubert. It was after you were negotiating with her?
Mr. Litchfield. Yes, but I don’t remember the exact date. I knew that name sounded real familiar.
Mr. Hubert. Bill DeMar, or have you heard of him?
Mr. Litchfield. You will have to associate it with something for me.
Mr. Hubert. Well, he was an MC at Jack’s Carousel Club.