Mr. Griffin. Did he talk to you about how close he was or friendly he was with his brothers?

Mrs. Nichols. Well, I got the impression that he was close to his brothers, his whole family. He seemed to be close to the whole family.

Mr. Griffin. What gave you that impression?

Mrs. Nichols. Well, he was very upset when his brothers Earl and Sam broke up their partnership, and he went up there to try to help settle their differences, and he just—I always got the impression that he was close to his family.

Mr. Griffin. Now you mentioned a man by the name of Ned Weisbrod.

Mrs. Nichols. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. As a person whom you thought was friendly with Jack, close to him in one way or another. When did you first meet Mr. Weisbrod?

Mrs. Nichols. I believe that I met him soon after I met Jack. I would say probably in 1950.

Mr. Griffin. How long did they continue, Weisbrod, to be friendly with Jack?

Mrs. Nichols. I had not seen him in—when I first knew Jack, he had the Silver Spur, and I used to see Ned in there.