Mr. Griffin. Who is Ruth Shay?

Mr. Crafard. I believe she was a girl called in connection with the ad that Jack ran in the paper.

Mr. Griffin. Was she ever hired?

Mr. Crafard. I don’t believe so.

Mr. Griffin. Now there is a line and the name Mickey Ryan with a telephone number.

Mr. Crafard. Mickey Ryan, DA 4-4378.

Mr. Griffin. Was that a number that was put in there for permanent reference.

Mr. Crafard. I believe that was his home number.

Mr. Griffin. How often did you see Mickey Ryan?

Mr. Crafard. I have saw Mickey Ryan probably about eight or nine times while I was working for Jack. Excuse me please.