Mr. Patterson. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. When did you first work for Eva Grant?

Mr. Patterson. I don’t know the exact date. In fact, I can’t even recall the month, but it was, I guess you could say, the last of the summer.

Mr. Griffin. This summer, 1963, was the first time?

Mr. Patterson. 1963; yes.

Mr. Griffin. So the first time you worked for Eva Grant would have been in the summer of 1963?

Mr. Patterson. Approximately. As far as I can recall.

Mr. Griffin. How much would you receive for a one night engagement with Mrs. Grant?

Mr. Patterson. Well, the pay varied from—I just played a one hour show, say, about 10 or 15 minutes with a saxophone player. That is myself and my band, and I would say the average pay I received was $8 for these 10 or 15 minutes.

Mr. Griffin. Would you sometimes receive more and sometimes receive less?