Mr. Griffin. These eight or nine times that you saw him, were they spread out over the entire period that you worked there or was it just in one particular brief period that he came in?

Mr. Crafard. Over the entire period of time I was working for Jack.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall the first time that you met Mickey Ryan?

Mr. Crafard. I’m not clear. No, sir; I don’t recall exactly when I met him.

Mr. Griffin. Tell us about the first time that you do recall meeting Mickey Ryan and what happened.

Mr. Crafard. The first time I really remember talking to Mickey at the club I believe he came in one afternoon and I was in the club. There was a letter that had come for Mickey Ryan to the club and I gave that to him.

Mr. Griffin. Did anybody else receive mail at the club besides Mickey Ryan?

Mr. Crafard. There was two or three people that had worked at the club previously that had mail sent to the club after they left.

Mr. Griffin. Did Mickey have anything to do with the sale of twist boards?

Mr. Crafard. Not that I know of.