Mr. Patterson. I don’t know. I don’t think I ever heard him talk.

Mr. Griffin. How tall do you recall him being?

Mr. Patterson. Maybe 5’ 11”, something like that.

Mr. Griffin. How about his build, fat, medium, thin?

Mr. Patterson. He was fairly thin, I think.

Mr. Griffin. That was the only occasion that you were ever in Jack’s apartment?

Mr. Patterson. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. Did you meet him any other places?

Mr. Patterson. No.

Mr. Griffin. Did you ever meet any of the people who worked at the Carousel Club outside of Billy DeMar?