Mr. Hubert. Did he come here often?

Mr. Paul. No, sir; I think I met him twice or three times.

Mr. Hubert. In your whole life, until the 25th?

Mr. Paul. Until the 25th, yes.

Mr. Hubert. Did he have any interest in the Carousel?

Mr. Paul. I couldn’t tell you.

Mr. Hubert. Does he claim any?

Mr. Paul. I still don’t know.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know his brother Hyman?

Mr. Paul. Yes; I met him one time.