Mr. Hubert. Have you seen Jack since he has been in jail?
Mr. Paul. I have seen him three times since he has been in there—one time I seen him—about 4 weeks ago—the time before I went to New York, the week before I went to New York I was down there, the 27th, I think it was, and I came back the 2d.
Mr. Hubert. That was of April?
Mr. Paul. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. And you saw him once just before that?
Mr. Paul. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. That was the first time you had seen him since he had been in jail?
Mr. Paul. No; I saw him twice when he first got into jail—twice I saw him then.
Mr. Hubert. In other words, there was the last time you saw him in jail and then you saw him two other times before that?
Mr. Paul. Yes.