Mr. Hubert. But I take it that you are assuming that it was not—what I wanted to get at was whether Jack had ever told you—that’s the way you would know.
Mr. Paul. I’m telling you that he did.
Mr. Hubert. That he told you that he went from here to Miami?
Mr. Paul. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. And from Miami down to Havana?
Mr. Paul. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. And on the route back, he came back through Miami?
Mr. Paul. Yes; I think that’s what he told me.
Mr. Hubert. Do you know of any other trips that he has taken?
Mr. Paul. The only time when I was at the Vegas Club, he went to—what are those Springs over there—Hot Springs—I think 2 weekends in a row.