Mr. Hubert. I mean, you have known him for a good many years.

Mr. Paul. Oh, yes; I’ve known Jack for so many years and he has always been that way, you know, reaction—fast—punch line—got to do this right away [indicating]. With him it wasn’t—he thought and did. It wasn’t a second thought.

Mr. Hubert. But you are quite clear that when he called you about 2 o’clock——

Mr. Paul. That’s about a little after the time I got home—was a quarter to 3.

Mr. Hubert. And that’s the first time you had heard from him?

Mr. Paul. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. The President was already dead?

Mr. Paul. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. And it was known he was dead?

Mr. Paul. Yes.