Mr. Paul. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. Do you know a woman by the name of Bertha Cheek?
Mr. Paul. What is her name?
Mr. Hubert. Bertha Cheek.
Mr. Paul. It doesn’t even ring a bell.
Mr. Hubert. Did Ruby ever tell you that just towards the end, in a week or two prior to the death of Oswald, that he was trying to borrow some money from her, and get her interested in opening a new cabaret?
Mr. Paul. No, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Or doing something to the Carousel?
Mr. Paul. No, sir; that name don’t even ring a bell to me.
Mr. Hubert. You don’t know her at all and he never mentioned her?