Mr. Senator. And I looked him up and I found him and when I found him he was in the stationery end.

Mr. Hubert. How extended was your visit with him then?

Mr. Senator. Oh, just casual. I would probably say maybe I saw him two or three times.

Mr. Hubert. No business relations?

Mr. Senator. No, no; no business relations whatsoever.

Mr. Hubert. Let’s go back now and pick up the time when you came back from Florida. I say “came back.” I assume you went back to New York.

Mr. Senator. Yes; I went back to New York.

Mr. Hubert. And tell us again——

Mr. Senator. I do not remember if I stayed in New York or went back home now, because I would say on and off I had worked for my brother at various times.

Mr. Hubert. Your brother?