Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mr. Senator. I think it was in December now. I don’t remember if it was a week, two or three. I’m not sure. I just don’t remember.

Mr. Hubert. Can you relate it to say Christmastime, Christmas day?

Mr. Senator. It could be. I just can’t think of when it was. Possibly.

Mr. Hubert. How long prior to then had you seen Loftus?

Mr. Senator. Before?

Mr. Hubert. Yes, say before Oswald was shot. How long had it been since you had seen Loftus?

Mr. Senator. Let me put it this way: I can’t quote it. I really can’t quote it, but I would say that he lived in Hillsboro and he used to come up on weekends and I believe he stayed with his friend in Irving, Frank Irwin.

Mr. Hubert. What was the friend’s name?

Mr. Senator. Frank Irwin.