Mr. Hubert. Well we will get to that. In this new job which you had when you were living with Corbat did you have to use an automobile?

Mr. Senator. Yes; a wagon.

Mr. Hubert. A station wagon?

Mr. Senator. Volkswagen, one of those box things, what do you call them?

Mr. Griffin. One of those Volkswagen microbuses?

Mr. Senator. I don’t know.

Mr. Griffin. Is it a passenger car?

Mr. Senator. No; it is one of these solid enclosures. It looks like a box, you know. I don’t know what you call them.

Mr. Hubert. Was it to hold goods you were displaying?

Mr. Senator. That is right; but there was no windows to it except in the back, the back part.