Mr. Hubert. You traded it in for what?

Mr. Senator. I had a Buick once. I mean I had a few Buicks. When I say a few I mean there might have been about 3, and I had a Ford once I believe.

Mr. Hubert. In any case you haven’t owned a car of your own for about 4 or 5 years?

Mr. Senator. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. And the last car you owned you must have sold it I suppose. You couldn’t have traded it in because then you would have gotten a new car.

Mr. Senator. I am trying to think what was I doing with the last car. I think the last car, I think I lost it on payments. I couldn’t keep up the payments if I am not mistaken, if that is the one. I think that is it. I am not sure.

Mr. Griffin. Let me interrupt a second to clarify one thing in my mind. You mentioned this Volkswagen. The last time you had it was in January?

Mr. Senator. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. Now what year?

Mr. Senator. 1964.