Mr. Hubert. Was he a big man, this Taber?

Mr. Senator. He was a little taller than I. I believe he was a little taller than I. But I would probably say he is a chap about maybe around I would say between 165 and 170 or 175. I am not sure.

Mr. Hubert. And how tall?

Mr. Senator. I would say he is probably, and I am only guessing, I would say maybe 5 feet 9 inches or 5 feet 10 inches.

Mr. Hubert. How big a man is Jack by the way in point of height and weight?

Mr. Senator. Jack I think, is about 5 feet 9 inches.

Mr. Hubert. And weighed what?

Mr. Senator. Jack weighed around 185, somewheres around that, 185.

Mr. Hubert. Would you consider most of that was bone or muscle or did he have much fat?

Mr. Senator. Well, he is 52. I don’t care how you drill yourself, I am certain there is a certain amount of flab that hangs around the side which I didn’t dare comment on. If I told him that he didn’t like it. But still there is a certain amount of flab, but he had a powerful back. I mean to look at the man’s back at his age, he had a tremendous back.