Mr. Senator. No; not that I know of.

Mr. Hubert. Either a shoulder holster or a hip holster?

Mr. Senator. No; I have never seen it.

Mr. Hubert. So when he carried a gun on his person where would he keep it?

Mr. Senator. It would be in his pants pocket or sometimes it may be in the bag.

Mr. Hubert. Did you know anything, from talking to him or otherwise, about the ownership of the Vegas Club? Who owned the Vegas, in other words, as far as you know?

Mr. Senator. As far as I know Jack Ruby owned it.

Mr. Hubert. Am I correct in assuming that your opinion on that point is from what he told you, or did he say anything else?

Mr. Senator. I always understood that he owned it, I mean as far as I know. Of course, there is a lot of things that I don’t know that he never told me, you know. He doesn’t expose everything.

Mr. Hubert. Eva Grant was actually the operator of it, wasn’t she?