Mr. Hubert. What about Ralph Paul? Did he have any part in it?
Mr. Senator. Ralph Paul had a part in it. I don’t know what the breakdown was, but I know Ralph Paul was connected with it.
Mr. Hubert. Connected by way of ownership?
Mr. Senator. I believe he was connected by ownership. I mean if he owned half or what it was I don’t know.
Mr. Hubert. On what facts do you base that?
Mr. Senator. On guesswork. I know he had something to do with it. What part he owned I don’t know.
Mr. Hubert. What facts make you state that you know he had something to do with it? There must be something that occurred again.
Mr. Senator. Nothing occurred because I mean I have seen Ralph, I know Ralph, and I know there is the association of him having a part of that club somehow.
Mr. Hubert. Let me put it to you this way. Did Jack ever tell you that Ralph Paul owned part of it?
Mr. Senator. Not directly, but I knew. You know as well as I know Jack, there was an awful lot of things he didn’t tell me circularwise. You can say moneywise where he kept his money, if he had a bank account, I know he had a connection with Ralph Paul. How much Ralph owned I don’t know.